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20 years 6 months ago #18048 by Demiurgo
Hello everybody

I've been out for a long time but i'm back again to this marvelous game and Community :D. Since I finished the EoC campaign i played i bit using multiple mods (Station assault, iFleet...) but due to my poor machine performance the game run creepy slow so i finished uninstalling it.

Now i've got my new PC and i'm plannig to re-play the whole game using Elite this Summer, and a couple of new mods you have made :D

Also now I have a little money and i'm plannig buying a joystick, so i ask you Masters of Knowledge about some data.

Is really interesant the ForceFeedback or similars technology in EoC and other games?

Which is the most vital point in a joystick? Accuracy, number of controls and buttons, texture, comfort, other...

Which joysticks fo you recommend?

Personally i like Saitek joysticks but actually i don't decide in which of them i would spend my money.

Thanks guys! [|)]

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20 years 6 months ago #9761 by MajorTom
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A minimum requirement would be a twist function (Z-Rotation) so you can twist the stick to roll your ship. A hat switch is very usefull too

You would probably really enjoy a force feedback stick because it gives you a very good feel for the game. (you even feel it when countermeasures are fired)

I have a M$ sidewinder but a Saitek is probably just as good and even better if you are a "lefty"

btw: in EOC you can also play with 2 joysticks (one for each hand) or some other second controller like a "strategic commander" or foot pedels for example. The second controller should be without force feedback, and you don't need the Z-Rotation on it.





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20 years 6 months ago #9762 by SoupDragon
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I use the Saitek Cyborg gold. It's quite dated now but has everything (bar force feedback) including modifications you can make for left hand use.

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20 years 6 months ago #9766 by Demiurgo
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But how does ForceFeedback feel?

Its a system that makes you "opposing force" to the direction you are trying to move the joystick or its simply a "shaking" when you are hit, you fire or you throw countermeasures? That's what "they" dont explain in the Joysticks back cover [xx(]

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20 years 6 months ago #9767 by Shane
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It's more of a 'wild-shaking' in LDS. When firing a missile it kicks back.

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20 years 6 months ago #9768 by MajorTom
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Originally posted by Demiurgo

But how does ForceFeedback feel?

Its a system that makes you "opposing force" to the direction you are trying to move the joystick or its simply a "shaking" when you are hit, you fire or you throw countermeasures? That's what "they" dont explain in the Joysticks back cover [xx(]

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They don't put it on the box because it depends on how (good) the game engine uses the force feedback functions.
In EOC you feel an "opposing force" when you turn your ship. Thats also dependent (to some degree) on the mass of the ship you are piloting. A Corvette actually feels "heavier" than a Patcom.

When you fire a missile you feel a little kickback in the stick. That function is linked (via the game engine) to a missile launch. Since countermeasures are missiles, you also feel the kickback when they are launched regardless if you launch them yourself or they are launched automatically.
The LDS effect as Shane described, happens because the game "wants" it to be like that when you are in LDS. (it could just as well be a different knocking or vibration effect if the engine was programmed differently)

In Eoc you also feel a little kickback when you fire a primary weapon. That "feel" is a bit different than the missile kickback.
You can, to a certain extent actually "fly by feel" in EOC. Forcefeedback improves the game experience remarkably.


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