My feelings on the Star Wars mod.
20 years 7 months ago #9607
by Shane
Replied by Shane on topic My feelings on the Star Wars mod.
SecondChance, I'm looking at the movie while I build the DS model. It appears the trench used to destroy the station is in the upper 'cap' of the DS. Is this correct?
http://images.snapfish.com/33%3A58%3A%3A723232%7Ffp54%3Dot%3E2328%3D%3C2%3C%3D8%3A8%3DXROQDF%3E2323532%3A3%3A4%3B7ot1lsi
Heads-up on a problem; because the model will be split into sections, smoothing values won't transmit across the sections. We'll have lines like in the picture below.
http://images.snapfish.com/33%3A58%3A%3A723232%7Ffp54%3Dot%3E2328%3D%3C2%3C%3D8%3A8%3DXROQDF%3E2323532%3A3%3A4%3B9ot1lsi
This project's getting ugly fast.
<font size="1"><font face="Book Antiqua"><font color="black">"Never before in the history of the world had such a mass of human beings moved and suffered together. This was no disciplined march; it was a stampede-- without order and without a goal, six million people unarmed and unprovisioned, driving headlong. It was the beginning of the rout of Civilisation... of the massacre of Mankind."
--H. G. Wells The War Of The Worlds</font id="black"></font id="Book Antiqua"> </font id="size1">
http://images.snapfish.com/33%3A58%3A%3A723232%7Ffp54%3Dot%3E2328%3D%3C2%3C%3D8%3A8%3DXROQDF%3E2323532%3A3%3A4%3B7ot1lsi
Heads-up on a problem; because the model will be split into sections, smoothing values won't transmit across the sections. We'll have lines like in the picture below.
http://images.snapfish.com/33%3A58%3A%3A723232%7Ffp54%3Dot%3E2328%3D%3C2%3C%3D8%3A8%3DXROQDF%3E2323532%3A3%3A4%3B9ot1lsi
This project's getting ugly fast.
<font size="1"><font face="Book Antiqua"><font color="black">"Never before in the history of the world had such a mass of human beings moved and suffered together. This was no disciplined march; it was a stampede-- without order and without a goal, six million people unarmed and unprovisioned, driving headlong. It was the beginning of the rout of Civilisation... of the massacre of Mankind."
--H. G. Wells The War Of The Worlds</font id="black"></font id="Book Antiqua"> </font id="size1">
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20 years 7 months ago #9608
by Second Chance
Replied by Second Chance on topic My feelings on the Star Wars mod.
Sweeet Death Star pic!
Yes. You are correct, sir! That is indeed where the trench is.
The resultant smoothing problem bites!!
Well, I was going to suggest that the Death Star be built in sections similar to this...
...but now I wonder if we should try to find a different method.
I thought that building it like this would allow you more freedom for modeling. Since each section consists only of the exterior polys, you could have more polys per section. And each CH could be very low poly, consisting of exactly what you see in the pic. (Obviously you wouldn't have those huge gaps between sections. They're there for clarity. ) I also figured that you could make the model section's pivot point center in the center of each section (like a normal avatar), and this way each section would use it's own LOD based on the player's distance to it's center. Then it would be a simple (simple = long, arduous and complicated) task to align all the sections to each other using dockports on the invisible central core.
But you're right, this is getting ugly fast. Maybe we should find another way. [V]
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Yes. You are correct, sir! That is indeed where the trench is.
The resultant smoothing problem bites!!
Well, I was going to suggest that the Death Star be built in sections similar to this...
...but now I wonder if we should try to find a different method.
I thought that building it like this would allow you more freedom for modeling. Since each section consists only of the exterior polys, you could have more polys per section. And each CH could be very low poly, consisting of exactly what you see in the pic. (Obviously you wouldn't have those huge gaps between sections. They're there for clarity. ) I also figured that you could make the model section's pivot point center in the center of each section (like a normal avatar), and this way each section would use it's own LOD based on the player's distance to it's center. Then it would be a simple (simple = long, arduous and complicated) task to align all the sections to each other using dockports on the invisible central core.
But you're right, this is getting ugly fast. Maybe we should find another way. [V]
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20 years 7 months ago #9609
by Shane
The Death Star is about half as tall as that dude working on it.
MajorTom: Are we getting too intense? Will multiplayer handle the sections (and fill-in sections) from SecondChance's diagram?
<font size="1"><font face="Book Antiqua"><font color="black">"Never before in the history of the world had such a mass of human beings moved and suffered together. This was no disciplined march; it was a stampede-- without order and without a goal, six million people unarmed and unprovisioned, driving headlong. It was the beginning of the rout of Civilisation... of the massacre of Mankind."
--H. G. Wells The War Of The Worlds</font id="black"></font id="Book Antiqua"> </font id="size1">
Replied by Shane on topic My feelings on the Star Wars mod.
You know, site after site argues over the size of the Death Star... and it's just plain silly. The picture clearly shows it's acurate dimensions.Sweeet Death Star pic!
The Death Star is about half as tall as that dude working on it.
That would take care of the smoothing problem, since those sections tend to look somewhat 'raised' on the actual model. But, damn! This is gonna be a lot of sections!Well, I was going to suggest that the Death Star be built in sections similar to this...
MajorTom: Are we getting too intense? Will multiplayer handle the sections (and fill-in sections) from SecondChance's diagram?
<font size="1"><font face="Book Antiqua"><font color="black">"Never before in the history of the world had such a mass of human beings moved and suffered together. This was no disciplined march; it was a stampede-- without order and without a goal, six million people unarmed and unprovisioned, driving headlong. It was the beginning of the rout of Civilisation... of the massacre of Mankind."
--H. G. Wells The War Of The Worlds</font id="black"></font id="Book Antiqua"> </font id="size1">
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20 years 7 months ago #9610
by EricMan64
Replied by EricMan64 on topic My feelings on the Star Wars mod.
If multiplayer cannot handle the death star, I would still create it for use in single player. It would be worth it, even only as an experiment into large objects in the flux engine. (we've learned a lot so far haven't we?) Iconic objects often work well enough for multiplayer, so you could create a non-sectioned DS shrunk to just small enough to work. Then the full size could be used in single player in all its detailed glory.
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20 years 7 months ago #9611
by Second Chance
No wonder the Tie Fighters came out so small.
Man, I would love to post that on some Star Wars board and watch the fanboys go apesh*t. You could even claim it to be canon evidence of the highest order; an official ILM photo.
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Replied by Second Chance on topic My feelings on the Star Wars mod.
LOL! Damn you Shane, I just about shot my dinner out my nose when I read that.You know, site after site argues over the size of the Death Star... and it's just plain silly. The picture clearly shows it's acurate dimensions.
The Death Star is about half as tall as that dude working on it.
No wonder the Tie Fighters came out so small.
Man, I would love to post that on some Star Wars board and watch the fanboys go apesh*t. You could even claim it to be canon evidence of the highest order; an official ILM photo.
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20 years 7 months ago #9612
by Second Chance
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Just wanted to remind everyone about this pic in the size comparison thread.
Death Star next to Bio Bomber
160 kilometers of pure Death Star goodness.
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Sorry, my personal server isn't working. I've moved the pic to my work server.
*edit*
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Death Star next to Bio Bomber
160 kilometers of pure Death Star goodness.
*edit
Sorry, my personal server isn't working. I've moved the pic to my work server.
*edit*
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